DRAFT MINUTES OF THE AGM HELD ON 30TH SEPTEMBER 2017
DATE: 27/2 /2018
SAKET
CHS LTD, THANE
DRAFT MINUTES OF THE AGM HELD ON 30TH SEPTEMBER
2017
Due to
lack of quorum at 10 am, the Chairman Mr. Hemant Hajare adjourned the AGM for
half an hour and then reconvened it at 10.30 am.
Before
the Chairman could start the meeting, Mr. S D Jayawant raised a point of order.
He stated that the meeting was invalid because as per byelaws, the Auditors
Report have to be signed before the notice of the meeting is put up. Here, the
Auditor’s Report was signed on September 21, 2017 while the AGM notice was put
up on September 15, 2017.
The
Chairman overruled the objections and started the meeting. In the beginning,
the members observed a minute silence in memory of those members who had
departed from us since the last meeting and also those killed in the
Elphinstone Road Station stampede.
Thereafter,
the Chairman welcomed the members to the meeting. He gave the members a brief
introduction about the intention of the meeting and informed them that the
accounts were finalised with the help of Mr. Pradeep Gupta. He then asked the
Secretary to start the proceedings.
The Secretary
Mr. Dilip Kankale read out the Agenda of the meeting and the following was
taken up for discussion.
I)
To
Read and approve the minutes of the last AGM held on the 25th Sept,
2016(Adjourned) and Reconvened on 16th Oct, 2016.
The Secretary
informed the members that the minutes were circulated to all members and
presumed that everyone would have read them. He then queried that if people had
no observations regarding the same, then the minutes could be passed.
Mr. Jayawant
raised an objection that the minutes did not include the following suggestions made
by him – (1) Parking allotment was done out of turn of the Waiting list and a
answer should be given why, (2) More than 2 vehicles are parked in some parking
areas, and, (3) Why was the Parking Waiting list not put up on notice boards. He
insisted that these 3 points be included in the minutes before they are passed.
Mr. Jayawant
pointed out that as per the byelaws, the draft minutes have to be prepared
within 3 months of the concluded AGM and circulated to members for their
observations. Then, on receipt of the observations, the Secretary should
suitably incorporate them in the minutes and then place the final draft in the
next MC meeting for approval and finalisation and then distributed to all the
members. He criticised that this procedure was not being followed by the
committee.
Mr.
Dayanand Nene said the minutes should be prepared in time and circulated in a
proper manner. He added that he had written 2 letters to the Managing Committee
raising objections about the minutes that they did not include his observations.
The letters were not replied nor were his observations incorporated in the
minutes. He also insisted that the minutes cannot be passed.
Mr.
Shasi Nair inquired whether the minutes can be passed subject to corrections
but Mr. Jayawant and Mr. Pradeep Gupta objected.
Mr.
Nene pointed out that if the minutes are not confirmed [passed] then every
decision taken in that AGM would become infructuous till the minutes are
passed.
It was
unanimously decided that the Minutes of the AGM dated Sept. 25 and October 16,
2016 be corrected and then represented for passing. The Secretary promised to
amend the minutes and present them to members as early as possible.
The
Secretary then moved to the next subject on the agenda.
II) To receive, consider and adopt the audited accounts for
the financial year 1st April, 2016 to 31st March, 2017
Mr.
Pradeep Gupta started the discussion explaining his role in assisting the
Committee in preparing the accounts. But he pointed out that the Receipts and
Payments statement was not there in the Secretary’s Report and as such how can
they discuss the accounts.
Mr. Jayawant
intervened and stated that the house should only receive and consider the
accounts but not adopt them – as in view of the heavy qualifications made by
the Auditor, if they adopt the accounts, the Committee will treat them as
passed.
The
Secretary asked the Treasurer Mr. Anil Ghodke to explain the accounts. Mr.
Ghodke stated that the accounts were ready in May 2017 itself but the Committee
purposely delayed the finalisation as they wanted to remove all lacunae from it
and clean them up. He stated that now the accounts are perfect.
Mr.
Nene opined that the Committee had not given the Audit Rectification Report for
the past year. The Auditor has commented on it. He stated that the accounts are
faulty and should not be approved with any ‘subject to’.
Mr.
Ghodke stated that just because the Audit Rectification Report was not filed
last year does not mean that it will happen again.
Mr.
Nene stated that post the last year’s AGM conclusion, Mr. Pradeep Gupta had
informed him that they would meet him to together rectify all discrepancies in
the accounts. He stated that till today, the said meeting has not happened.
Mr. Pakka said that in the interim period from
May to September, the Secretary should have given clarifications about the qualifications
and objections of the Auditor and included them in his Secretary’s Report.
Mr.
Shasi Nair replied though the Accounts were ready in May, the Managing
Committee wanted to rectify all mistakes in the accounts and put systems in
place and hence they had invited the Auditor and asked him to give all his
observations fearlessly and harshly without camaflouging anything.
The Treasurer
Mr. Anil Ghodke then introduced the Auditor Mr. A.A. Mohare and stated that he
will reply to members questions on accounts.
Mr.
Nene stated that the Auditor was an outsider and he won’t reply to our queries.
He told Mr. Ghodke that as a Treasurer he should reply to all questions on
accounts.
Mr.
Anil Ghodke: Auditor is part of our Account work now and he knows the summary
of our accounts.
Mr.
Gopal Iyer: Auditors should be an independent body he should present his
audited report independently.
Mr.
Gopalkrishanan Iyer concurred with Mr. Gopal Iyer. Mr. Nene then asked the
Treasurer to explain how they had finalised the accounts.
Mr.
Anil Ghodke replied that actual finalisation of accounts was completed on 25th
May but we decided to utilise the time available to correct discrepancies in
the accounts. The Committee had also sought advice from the auditor to help out
even at administrative level, he added.
He
further informed that Committee members went to every defaulter’s house for maintenance
collection. We have also put defaulter list on the notice boards. He added that
the Committee had collected appx. Rs. 19 lakhs from most of the defaulters,
which was well received by the members present.
Mr.
Shivram questioned whether all systems were perfect. He asked how has the committee
distributed workload amongst them. He criticised the Committee for the Rs. 46
lakhs spent on repair and maintenance, without proper approvals and sanctions
and asked do committee members have the power to spend such moneys?
Mr.
Shivram also raised the issue of Conflict of Interest in work allotted to
members and office bearers and stated that as per the byelaws, no member of the
Committee, directly or indirectly undertake any work in the society or else, he
should not stay on the committee. He pointed out to the observation of the
Auditor on point no. 13 of his Qualified Report with special reference to
Byelaws no.156 and 157.
Mr.
Gopal Iyer pointed out to various discrepancies in the accounts and questioned
that if the accounts were ready in May 2017, what the Committee was doing for 4
months. He pointed out that in the past year the Committee had spent Rs. 46
lakhs on Repairs and Maintenance, which was a rise of over 250% on the year
prior to that ( Rs. 13 lakhs).
Continuing
the discussion, Mr. Chary congratulated the committee for reduction in the
MSEDC bill; He suggested that the Committee should display the Income &
Expenditure expenses on the notice board every month or quarterly, in that way
members can get clear detail of the expenses. For any big repair expenditure
the committee should take the approval of the AGM. In the Agenda the Budget is
not included. What is the status of the FDs in the Bank. Management has changed
the security without any notice about the new security agency. Also all gates
were closed suddenly and members had to face problems early in the morning, as
vendors were allowed to enter from certain gates. Procedure should be followed
in a systematic manner. Circular should be put on the notice before any steps
are taken by the Managing Committee.
Mr Chary
stated that a figure of 4,23,000/- reflected in the balance sheet (to be
recovered from Wescon property) and Rs. 4.14 lakhs payable to members, were
written off at the time of Mr. Nene, approval was also taken in the AGM. He
asked the Committee to give details about the legal cases pending against
Wescon and what is the status of OC?
Mrs.
Viji Iyer stated that why every year the Office bearers are changed? We don’t
know the actual status of the work going in the society. Every year new rules
and regulations are introduced.
Mr.
Durga Misra inquired if the rotation of office bearers is permitted as per
bye-laws?
Mr.
Dayanand Nene then spoke in detail on the discrepancies in the accounts and
stated that the accounts were wrong and faulty. He criticised the Office
bearers for wasting Rs. 90,000/- of the society on Kaustubh and Co. (for
writing accounts) and urged that efforts should be made to recover the amount.
He stated that the Members’ dues shown as Rs. 36 lakhs in the Accounts were
wrong and they would not exceed Rs. 25 lakhs.
Mr.
Nene questioned how the amount of Rs. 7 lakhs was written off without giving
any details. He stated that the Audit was not done properly and cited examples
for the same – the Auditor, inspite of writing to him has failed to mention
that the Society had failed to hold the mandatory SGM in February before
Municipal Elections, inspite of a Govt. Directive that such remark should be
mentioned in the Report.
Mr.
Nene stated that contrary to what was mentioned in the Audit Report, the
society had adopted the Model Byelaws in the last year’s AGM and that the same
was also minuted and records are available in the society office. He pointed
out that it was surprising that no mention is made of the Repair Fund in the
Auditors Report and Accounts and even the Opening Balance of the Fund was not
reflected. He pointed out that the society collects Rs. 0.45 ps psq every month
as Repair Fund – a healthy Rs. 28 lakhs is gathered every year.
Mr.
Nene criticised that interest on FD’s was shown as Revenue Income in the Income
and Expenditure account – which was a wrong practice. He informed that even the
Auditor has commented on this in his report, thus vindicating him.
Mr.
Nene pointed out that in last year’s Income & Expenditure account, excess
of income over expenditure was shown as Rs. 1.50 lakhs while this year, the
same has been changed to Rs. 7.41 lakhs. He questioned how and why it was done.
Then,
Mr. Nene pointed out to discrepancies – according to him – in the Auditor’s
qualified report. He challenged the remarks that the society has no records of
anything in the office. Mr. Nene answered the Auditor’s observation regarding
Cash in Hand as on March 2017. He stated that the Auditors blanket remark that
FDs are not earmarked against specific funds was wrong – and mentioned that had
the Audit been done properly, he would have seen the markings on the FDs done
by the Banks.
After
Mr. Nene, Mr. Shasi Nair started replying to the points raised by Mr. Shivram
and Mr. Chary. He informed that the Committee had not broken any FDs in the
year under purview. Then he proceeded to reply to the questions regarding
details of the Rs. 46 lakhs spent on Repairs and Maintenance. At this point Mr.
Gopalkrishnan Iyer intervened and stated that the particular information was
already there in the Secretary’s Report. Mr. Shivram stated that the members
were concerned whether there were proper checks and balances to ensure that
society’s interest were protected.
Mr.
Pradeep Gupta then intervened and in the discussion and stated that there was
no proper system in place. He informed that 3 Committee members had not paid
their maintenance dues on time. He cited that a payment of Rs. 84,000/- was
made to lift debris from the society – which belonged to a Contractor who was
member of the Managing Committee. He stated that there was no proper method of
entering into Contracts and cited Pest Control and CCTV contracts as an
example. He informed that he had objected to the releasing of payment to our
past auditor Mr. Sanjay Tupe but the committee did not listen,
He
informed that the society has never tried to recover Bank Charges of cheques
from members which had bounced. He informed that proper and timely bills are
not sent to ICICI Bank for their ATM rent. He also informed that money is lying
idle in the society savings account as it is not converted into FDs on time and
society has been losing interest.
Mr. Pradeep Gupta criticised that in no MC
meetings minutes, he has seen any discussions on accounts, expenditure being
incurred or sanctions ever sought. He demanded that the rebate given to members
for early payment of maintenance should be stopped.
Mr.
Gupta questioned as to why the Structural Audit Report of Neotech has yet not
been distributed? For future improvement, he suggested that henceforth no big
expenses be made without the permission of the General Body and a 5 member
committee be formed to scrutinise and ensure the proper functioning of the
Managing Committee.
After
this, Mr. Pakka and Mr. Viswanathan took part in the debate. Mr. Pakka sought
information about the treatment given to certain aspects of the accounts. Mr.
Viswanathan criticised the Managing Committee for holding the meeting on the
last permissible day. He said that the Managing Committee has been thoroughly
exposed as inefficient. He also criticised the profit shown in the Balance
Sheet as fictiticious.
After
the lengthy debate, the Auditor Mr. Amit Mohare addressed the meeting.
Mr.
A.A. Mohare: ( Salient points are as under)
1)
He had given a qualified report
which is a completely negative report.
2)
He did not get / find any
proper records or books of accounts in the society.
3)
He informed that his audit was
delayed beyond July 31st, 2017 because he did not get any
information from the society on time.
4)
He said that there is no
Opening Balance available to him to start his work and the society had not done
the Bank reconciliation required.
5)
He stated that the society has
not properly maintained the minutes of the AGM and Managing committee meetings.
6)
He informed that the method of
rotation of office bearers was wrong and it should have been done with consent
of the Election Officer.
7)
He further informed that though
the society had adopted the new byelaws last year, the same had become
infructuous as they were not submitted to the Registrar and a order obtained
within 2 month of passing them.
8)
He then informed that his
Special Report was a serious thing exposing faults in the functioning of the
society. However, these faults can be rectified in 3 months from the date of
the Audit Report, as per provisions of the MCS Act by submitting an Audit
Rectification Report.
9)
He underlined the importance of
maintaining records properly, because as per the MCS Act, societies have to
keep records permanently.
10) He then pointed out the serious lacunae’s in
the functioning of the society.
11) The
write off of Rs. 7 lakhs without any supporting was incorrect.
12) Spending
of Rs. 46 lakhs without sanctions and approvals of the General Body and
Managing Committee meetings was a total violation of all laws, byelaws and the
MCS act.
13) He stated that he had pointed out 13 points to
be rectified by the society in a systematic manner, in his A/B/C phased Audit
Report.
14) He
mentioned that the Tally balances and Manual books are not matching. So
accordingly there was difference in the members account.
15) Proper
Inwards & outward register should be maintained for assets and they should
be checked periodically.
16) The
FD investments and their classification has to match with the Funds Register.
17) Society
should have its own IT return login ID, which is missing. Income Tax returns
and other mandatory returns are not filed properly. The society had hired a tax
professional to file the returns paying a huge fee, but, then too, income tax department
has levied huge penalty with interest.
18) Society
committee members should study and amend the Bye-Law for repairs and
maintenance related expenses.
19) As
per model Bye-Law each share capital should be of Rs.10/- for every member. A
separate sub-committee should be formed to distribute the share certificate and
verify the documentation.
20)
The Co-operative Act should be followed by the
society. We have to conduct cooperative educational seminars for the society to
work properly. Educational training is compulsory for society member as per the
MCS act..
21) GST is applicable for society @18% on
liability & 24% will be interest on liability if there is a delay. Society
should start the process of getting the GST as early as possible from the
professional firm.
22)In case
of any breaches regarding submission of mandatory documents by society, the
Committee can be dismissed by the Registrar and such dismissed members shall
not be able to contest elections anywhere in Maharashtra.
The
members then inquired what to do with the accounts, in view of the heavy
qualifications by the Auditor.
Mr.
Nene suggested that we should rectify
the accounts first and then call for a fresh meeting to adopt the accounts, in
view of past experience when ‘ subject
to’ has never been adhered to by any committee.
Mr.
Mohare stated that as the society was on the last day of the time to hold the
meeting, if the meeting was adjourned without adopting the accounts, the
society would lose its right of appointing an auditor of their choice.
He
suggested that the members adopt the accounts and rectify them within 3 months
and hold a SGM again to ratify the rectification. Everyone agreed.
The
Secretary then moved a resolution that the accounts for the financial year
2016-17 were adopted. Proposed by Mr. S.
Jayawant, Seconded by Mr. M.K Pakka.
Mr. Nene asked for a
division of votes. 20 people voted for the resolution, 4 against ( Mr. Nene,
Shivram, Prasad Bedekar and Mrs. Rasika Bedekar) and 1 abstained ( Mr.
Viswanathan).
The Resolution was approved by majority votes.
The Resolution was approved by majority votes.
III) To appoint the statutory auditor for the financial year 1st April, 2017 to 31st March, 2018
Mr.
Nene informed that he had proposed the name of M/s. SS Patwardhan & Co. as
Auditors. However, they have withdrawn their name in favour of M/s. AA Mohare.
It was
then resolved that Mr. A.A. Mohare be appointed as the statutory auditor for
the financial year 1st April, 2017 to 31st March, 2018.
Proposed
by Mr. SN Vishwanthan, Seconded by Mr. Shine Raj
Approved unanimously.
Approved unanimously.
IV) To brief members about the changes of Transport
contractor.
This
point was not discussed due to the lack of time.
The meeting ended with a vote of thanks to the
chair and chanting of the National Anthem.
For Saket CHS LTD.
Dilip
Kankale
Hon. Secretary
Hon. Secretary
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